I grew up in a Witness family ,when I was a kid about 9-10 I told my dad that God is like a scientist ,trial and error, he made Adam and seeing he wasn't happy he gave him Eve .He said that was a blasphemy .I don't think so anymore . I see the Bible as a God's PR exercise towards mankind and evidence that he doesn't know us that well .The OT God is hateful ,loves killing and exact punishment ,this is a fact ,you can't escape it .The NW God is loving ,forgiving ,more understanting. In the new system to come we might get to see another face
raymond frantz
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If you believe God exists, what are your thoughts on what pleases him most?
by Fernando inour family has come to believe that god really wants each individual to personally and independently seek, find and walk with him - quite apart from what other humans say, think, believe or do.. we believe we were created as semi-autonomous beings.
when our inner compass is recalibrated, and we then self-direct, the outcomes seem best.. when we are instead led by humans, their hierarchies, organisations and ideas, the outcomes on the whole seem unfavourable.
legalism (rules), moralism (a moral code), ethnocentrism (doctrine), and gnosticism (knowledge) may seem meritorious.. yet these do not seem to lead to the deep inner transformation needed.
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The Governing Body Myth
by DATA-DOG inwhatever your feelings about god or the bible, you may agree that thier manner of communication is very nice.
when the matter could not be resolved, paul and barnabas took the issue back to the congregation of the brothers who originated the problem - the jerusalem congregation.
we learn from this account, not that the jerusalem congregation served as a headquarters or governing body that handed down instruction and guidance for the other congregations.
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"Brothers, even though a man takes some false step before he is aware of it, you who have spiritual qualifications try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness, as you each keep an eye on yourself, for fear you also may be tempted. Go on carrying the burdens of one another, and thus fulfill the law of the Christ." - Galatians 6:1-2
So how do I go about correcting them ? Do I write them a letter ? Or do I tell the local elders ? These men in Brooklyn have blood in their hands ,they go to sleep every night in full knowledge that they have destroyed thousand of families with their disfellowship practise .These snakes are not my brothers ,they are Satan's offspring as were the Pharishees of Jesus' days and they will be judged harsly from their Master shortly.
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Website offering help for children cases
by raymond frantz ini came across the following website http://jwchildcustody.com .it offers advice to parents fight a custody for children case with their jehovah's witness spouse .it is meant for your lawyer, i hope that will be a good help for many?
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I came across the following website http://jwchildcustody.com .It offers advice to parents fight a custody for children case with their Jehovah's Witness spouse .It is meant for your lawyer, I hope that will be a good help for many?
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Matthew 27:52-53 WTF!?!?!?!
by Cagefighter indead people raided jerusalem during the cruxifiction?
how have i never heard this before?
why do i suspect the nwt completely leaves this event out?.
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Another explanation is this one :
Around Jerusalem at the time, the method of burial was in the side of a hill or mountain. They usually did not bury the dead 6 foot under the dirt. These would be either naturally occurring caves or dug out especially for burials.
When the earthquake(s) happened--the main one with aftershocks, normally---this dislodged (literally) the sealed stones at the openings and the bodies inside. Gravity takes over and these bodies roll down the hill, into the streets of Jerusalem.
For those residents or anybody really, this caused the citizens to be very upset. But those bodies then did not get up and walk away. They remained dead.
Someone asked why you asked this of Jehovah's Witnesses? The answer is obvious. You wanted a correct answer based on research and knowledge. It is how we do things. Not by repeating what some clergyman has you recite. -
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Matthew 27:52-53 WTF!?!?!?!
by Cagefighter indead people raided jerusalem during the cruxifiction?
how have i never heard this before?
why do i suspect the nwt completely leaves this event out?.
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Epiphanius and other early Church Fathers taught that the holy ones literally came to life and went with the resurrected Jesus to heaven. Augustine, Theophylactus, and Zigabenus believed that these dead ones received a temporary resurrection but later returned to their tombs.
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Matthew 27:52-53 WTF!?!?!?!
by Cagefighter indead people raided jerusalem during the cruxifiction?
how have i never heard this before?
why do i suspect the nwt completely leaves this event out?.
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κα?
and
τ?
the
μνημε?α
tombs
?νε?χθησαν
were opened,
κα?
and
πολλ?
many
σ?ματα
bodies
τ?ν
of the
κεκοιμημ?νων
fallen asleep
?γ?ων
saints
?γ?ρθησαν
arose,
κα?
and
?ξελθ?ντες
having gone forth
?κ
out of
τ?ν
the
μνημε?ων
tombs
μετ?
after
τ?ν
the
?γερσιν
resurrection
α?το?
of him,
ε?σ?λθον
they entered
ε?ς
into
τ?ν
the
?γ?αν
holy
π?λιν
city
κα?
and
?νεφαν?σθησαν
appeared
πολλο?ς
to many.
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For those of you who were die hard JW's, did you ever think...
by TweetieBird inyou would find yourself on this side of the fence?.
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never ,it takes one personal disaster to starft looking .I feel so ashamed now for a brother was dsfellowshiped for apostasy was I was a kid and nver talked to him
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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Dario Khel ,many thanks for the advice ,you gave food for thought
Gotshapeddemon ,here is my thought .I agree entirely about the 95% "sleeping" sheep ,nevertheless they are blaspheming against Jehovah with their doctrines and they are a danger to the public since they do not tell all the truth to new comers .What if i send an anonymous letter to the elders telling them that will expose the truth to the local community (with flyers from door to door?) about the disfellowshiping practice .You see ,they can lie to people from door to door and lie to themselves but when faced with the option of being exposed to the very people that they 're trying to witness the powers of reason will return because deep inside they know they are full of bull*** .
This way I get something accomplished .Your thoughts?
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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Why is it that no one is trying to take on them from within ? I know Candice Condi tried and succeeded to sue them for the pedophilia issue ,but how about the shunning policy which holds so many captives
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What is the New Light?
by JustHuman14 inhi everyone.
i haven't visited the forum for quite a long time, and specially when it has changed before 2 years(my previous avatar was justhuman, since 2001), but i couldn't retrieve my account after the change of the forum, so i create a similar avatar.. so i didn't had time to look what's going on in the wt world, for at least 2 years( i was busy building my carreer to the titanic) and i just pop in to ask what are the new developments in wt world.
any new lights that the gb came across with, or god directed them to present to the flock at the apropriate time?.
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hi justhuman is your photo the greek f0ootball team european cup trophy ?